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Post by crystal on Oct 2, 2008 16:04:00 GMT -4
I am very familiar with Payne Road and the history of the Payne Family, but I have not heard any of the history of the Daulton Family. Please, do tell...
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Post by michael818 on Oct 2, 2008 17:33:04 GMT -4
I am very familiar with Payne Road and the history of the Payne Family, but I have not heard any of the history of the Daulton Family. Please, do tell... I find this interesting since, through extensive research, we have established that the EDWARDS FAMILY has owned that property where the so-called Payne House stood. It was the Edwards House. Period. Furthermore, only two violent deaths are documented out there, not some prolonged series. The deputy who last owned the house's grandfather, a suicide, and the young woman left tied to a tree in 1992. "Edward Payne's Diary" is decidedly NOT real, but was placed out there to scare people. It is someone's fright prop; nothing more. Furthermore, in taking it, your friend committed ROBBERY, as well as burglary in going into a house that, though no one lived in it, was hardly abandoned. People continue to use these false stories, and discredit any legitimate evidence. THERE WAS NO EDWARD PAYNE, at least, none associated with that house.
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Post by Interested person on Jun 24, 2010 23:42:19 GMT -4
I have been to Payne Road. Conducted an investigation out there with a NC ghosthunting team; all that remains fo the Edwards house is the foundation, but there is a storage building, corn crib, hen house and other structures out there around the property. I have confirmed four deaths that occured on Payne Road. Two were family members (a grandfather and a grandson) Two others were killed, execution style, and left underneath the eaves of one the structures on that road. Another story but not confirmed is the hanging of a black prostitute. Have heard that tale more than once, but have not obtain confirmation. There is an eerieness to the area. I am not originally from this area, and I was a skeptic, until the investigation in the area.
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Post by michael818 on Jun 26, 2010 10:28:32 GMT -4
The alleged prostitute, One Vernice Alford, was NOT hanged. In November, 1992, she was taken out there, raped, beaten, tied to that big old tree, and stabbed repeatedly. 3 men were convicted in that killing. As for the grandfather, yes, he blew himself to kingdom come with a stick of dynamite. As for the other 3 deaths you mention, I have never seen anything about those. If you have documentation, I would like to see that. Do you have a link? Were you with Haunted NC? While I have great respect for their work, they do have the false story on their site that Lydia of Jamestown Underpass fame is one Lydia Jane McCarthy. Cursory research by myself, and by the High Point Library's NC Room show that Ms. McCarthy was in her 70's when she died in 1923.
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Post by crystal0814 on Jul 22, 2010 10:24:42 GMT -4
Can you elaborate about the Daulton House? What is the story behind that? I have always wondered about it. Also, Michael, I wrote Rural Hall's Historical Society about Payne/Edwards Road. You are 100% correct. It was the Edwards family. You should see the email that the Society sent me though. It is very interesting, and she told me about a LOT of things that went on there that are documented. You probably know all about them, but if you want me to, I can see if I saved the email in my yahoo account, and I can post it if you'd like. Just let me know.
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Post by michael818 on Jul 22, 2010 21:18:17 GMT -4
Post away, or send it to my yahoo email... Thanx!
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Post by Amber on Nov 2, 2010 11:56:18 GMT -4
So two nights ago some friends and I went to Payne Road. When we went down the road the first time, a car passed us but we didn't think anything of it. We stopped at the bridge for a few minutes and a car pulled up behind us. We sat there for a few minutes and they turned their lights off so we turned ours off too. Then they proceeded to honk their horn. We were like, okay this is dumb, so we left. They followed us all the way up to Germanton Rd, flashing their brights, riding our butt, and turning their headlights off. We decided it wasn't anything paranormal, just some punks trying to mess with us. We stopped at the store off of Germanton Rd, hoping they would pull in too but they just drove off. So we decided to go back down to Payne Rd so we could do some investigating.
By the time we got back down to the bridge, it was around midnight and we didn't see anything. One of my friends stepped outside of the car and asked questions. She took pictures and didn't really get much. We think we saw a few orbs but they could have been dust. After being completely unsuccessful, we decided to leave. We didn't know the story behind Payne Rd at the time, and quite honestly we didn't really know what we were supposed to be doing. We drove all the way up the road and back a few times. I felt an eerie feeling, simply because it was dark and I was in an unfamiliar place. I really don't think my feeling had anything to do with Payne Rd at all. I've been trying to do some research but I can't find anything consistent. I'd love to get my hands on some newspaper articles and see if I can find any proof of something that had happened. I'd appreciate it if anyone had a TRUE story of the history concerning Payne Rd.
I've read that you have to have a 1990 or earlier model car for anything to happen. I've heard that there must be a full moon as well. I'm pretty skeptical about those types of superstitions, but let me know if they are really TRUE.
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Post by michael818 on Nov 3, 2010 14:10:33 GMT -4
If you came to a bridge, then you were on the road actually named Payne Road. This is actually not the road where all the old stories originate. For many years, people have been calling Edwards Road, which runs from Hwy 66 in Rural Hall, just by the train tracks, to Payne Rd. This road is where all those stories, most patently false, come from. There was once a huge multi-story house in the last curve, on the left, before Edwards ends at Payne. At this curve is where the fabled bridge was. It has been replaced by a culvert. The "hanging" tree is also no more. This house was the Edwards House. It has often been called the Payne House, with a story that Edward Payne slaughtered his family, then killed himself. This story is untrue. No one named Edward Payne ever did such a thing. If it had happened at any point before the famous Lawson episode, then it would have been referenced in news stories at that time. And if it had happened since, then there would be documentation, and the Lawson Tragedy would have been referenced in news stories about it. The fact is, people have poured over records, including deeds, newspapers, and law enforcement records, plus other documents, and no one has ever found anything to support the Payne Family legend. Most relatives of the Paynes in the area, in fact, will tell you the story is hogwash. As I said, the house in question, which burned down years ago, belonged to the Edwards Family. As far as I can find out, the property is still in the hands of Edwards descendants. The only documented evidence I could find of anything spectacular and tragic to occur on that property, given to me by a posting person here, and available with the Historical Society in Rural Hall, is the death of Mr. M. F. Edwards himself. The man did in fact, blow himself up in 1955. But he only killed himself, not his whole family. Tradition has it that he stuck a stick of dynamite in his mouth, but not sure if that is fact or rumor. But that's it. Becky, did you find out any more details in your research? One other violent death is documented in the area. A Winston-Salem woman, allegedly a prostitute, was brutally murdered nearby in November, 1992. This case is documented as well, and all three men convicted in the case are have completed their sentences. Though I've been told this happened at where the tree once stood by the bridge, I'm not exactly sure. EVP recordings of a woman's voice saying the woman's name would seem to supprot this, but who knows? Becky?
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Post by Amber on Nov 3, 2010 18:54:08 GMT -4
I read through the entire thread last night after I posted my story and I have to say that michael818 certainly seems to have the most legitimate information. By the way, I do appreciate your quick response and I have a few questions.
Have you seen or experienced anything at the sites where the bridge or house used to be? Do you have any idea as to where the old "hanging" tree was? Do you have any tips or advice for someone who will be visiting there soon? My friends and I are planning to go back this month and we're hoping that with more background information we will find something of interest.
Thanks so much!
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Post by michael818 on Nov 4, 2010 18:48:49 GMT -4
Honestly, there's not much left of the stuff that used to be. The bridge was across the creek in the curve, and that big ol' tree was in the little clearing. It was on the right, just after the creek, if you are coming down from 66 by the tracks on Edwards, towards the end at Payne. The house was on the left. The story at the bridge was that if you turned your car off on it, the windows would fog up and you'd see childrens' handprints... Also your car was supposed to not start again as long as it was on the bridge. Never experienced this myself. A man who grew up in the area told me there used to be lights seen in the Edwards House when no one was there. The tree was allegedly the site of a black man's lynching, but could never find any documentation of that. Truthfully, it was a lot spookier out there before the road was paved and the bridge taken out. There have been a couple of people trying to revive the Edward Payne Legend, but even with another round of looking, I just can't find any documentation of that either. They say they know descendants of him who will tell the story, despite the fact that the Payne Antescendant in the area was WILLIAM Payne, not Edward. I have repeatedly challenged anyone who has proof of the Edward Payne story to produce their witnesses and proof in person, not online, but no one ever actually shows up or provides anything. I am still workingnon just one more round of research, but so far, nothing has turned up on an Edward Payne slaughter...
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Post by michael818 on Nov 4, 2010 18:50:25 GMT -4
When she is ready, I think ncbec may be able to shed some light on the Payne Rd. stuff as well
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Post by michael818 on Nov 17, 2010 13:59:54 GMT -4
After going back through documents provided by Crystal from a historical society, it turns out I was wrong about the progenitor of the area's Paynes. It was one WASHINGTON Payne, not William Payne. I apologize for the error. This, however, CONCLUSIVELY discounts the Edward Payne story, as this Mr. Washington Payne was the one in the area during the time period "Edward Payne" was supposed to have done his dastardly deeds.
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Post by pat on Nov 18, 2010 18:13:13 GMT -4
I can put the story about the Edwards house on Payne road to rest. Frank Edwards was my Grandmother brother. He pulled his truck into a shed close to the house and put a stick of dynamite under his head and and struck a match to it. My mom said he was a very kind man and the whole family was in shock that he would do something like that. The house is not there anymore. It burned down.
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Post by pat on Nov 18, 2010 18:15:34 GMT -4
I can put the story about the Edwards house on Payne road to rest. Frank Edwards was my Grandmother brother. He pulled his truck into a shed close to the house and put a stick of dynamite under his head and and struck a match to it. My mom said he was a very kind man and the whole family was in shock that he would do something like that. The house is not there anymore. It burned down.
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Post by Mandi on Nov 20, 2010 2:13:56 GMT -4
Crystal, Would you mind emailing me the information you received from the Rural Hall Historical Society on the Payne Rd. stories. Or if anyone else has any info that has not been posted previously, please email me. Thanks, I appreciate it. M. Email: mandichildress@gmail.com
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