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Post by Josiah on Jun 18, 2011 1:08:59 GMT -4
You clearly do not know what you are talking about. Edward Payne was my great great uncle. PLEASE. Retreat yourself from this forum and get a factual lead on information before you argue about it.
Thank you.
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Post by michael818 on Jun 18, 2011 17:24:24 GMT -4
You clearly do not know what you are talking about. Edward Payne was my great great uncle. PLEASE. Retreat yourself from this forum and get a factual lead on information before you argue about it. Thank you. PROVE it... That's right, you CAN"T! No one by that name has been found in ANY form in HISTORIC RECORDS. No census records. No birth records. No DEATH records. For hi9m to have existed in that recent a generation, not only would there be such records, there would also be a RECORD in news or law enforcement files, of his crimes. YOu are the one who doesn't know what you are talking about. If you can show me ACTUAL REAL records, Alright, I'll say I was wrong. But til that day comes, I reaffirm that Edward Payne and his so-called massacre are BULL-EFFING-SHIT!
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Post by michael818 on Jun 18, 2011 17:28:51 GMT -4
You know what, I don't really care anymore. Go ahead and spread the buulshit lies and falsehoods. You aren't fooling anyone, or accomplishing anything but showing your total ignorance of the local history and the facts. Go ahead. Keep talking. Keep perpetuating the bull. Facts are facts, and there is no point in continuing to argue the point. You keep hiding behind these fake names and working to provoke a response. yes, I know that the same person has been doing a LOT of the posts on this. That was confirmed by authorities for me. So go on. No one, especially no one with any knowledge of the truth, is fooled by you...
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Post by Tyler on Jul 30, 2011 13:00:45 GMT -4
It is interesting about all of these stories surrounding the areas such as Edwards/Payne and Walnut Cove. We all know the stories became intertwined with each other over the past fifty years. The story of Mr. Payne, true or not, (most likely not) is still a fun ghost story to tell our friends and family. There will come a day when this story is forgotten and replaced by new folklore about the area. This is because it is told without evidence of death records or anything of the sort. Yet it is still just what it is; a story told on dark evenings when the wind is chilly. People have been telling stories like these for hundreds of years, and will continue to do so. Over the past year my research has lead me nowhere to finding a shred of truth about the story. I have been to numerous locations in and around both roads and have seen or heard nothing except for a creepy atmosphere. As I said before, the story will either change or die, according to who is willing to tell it and who is willing to listen
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Post by Jeff on Sept 5, 2011 12:58:04 GMT -4
i went out during broad daylight and not really beliving in any of the hautinings that "happen" here. this was my first and last trip as a non beleiver. i only stayed on edwards rd. and felt a little of an eery feeling but continued nontheless. as we started to turn back and head to whatever we had to do i stopped to look over this big hill of to the right. My girlfriend told me not leave the car... but i went anyways. it was a really goregous sight looking off into the distance and i decided to pick my girl a flower that i saw. i checked it for bugs and headed back to the car. when i got in the car i was like that wasnt so scary and handed her the flower. not two seconds later she shrieked as ants started to come out of nowhere and onto her. as soon as she threw out the flower the bugs dissapered...
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Post by Jessica Love on Sept 11, 2011 15:46:41 GMT -4
hey i lived in stokes county all my life and was wanting to know where i can find the articles on the lawson family murder from the news paper and the best place to buy the books her is my email jmlovesbgl@yahoo.com
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Post by michael818 on Sept 12, 2011 17:27:02 GMT -4
hey i lived in stokes county all my life and was wanting to know where i can find the articles on the lawson family murder from the news paper and the best place to buy the books her is my email jmlovesbgl@yahoo.com I do believe both the books on the Lawsons alone have gine out of print, but you may be able to rummage a copy at a used book store, Good Will, etc... or amazon. Roadside revenants is still available on line, or at the Barnes & Noble in Winston-Salem, in the NC section... Barnes Noble also usually carries the documentary, A Christmas family Tragedy on DVD. As far as newspaper articlers, you may be able to find archives online at the Winston-Salem Journal, though you're more likely going to have to go to the librasry and look through... da-da-DUMMMM... microfilm...
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Post by peterdragon55 on Feb 15, 2012 8:49:11 GMT -4
I grew up on Edwards Rd. The House that burned down is Edwards.The woman tied to tree is true. She was at corner of Edwards Rd. and Payne Rd. turn left off Edwards onto Payne then left into woods. Biker and woman was found at barn, hands tied behind back and shot execution style. They were found (if memory serves right) at barn owned by Mr. Worth Mitchell. Right side of Edwards Rd. before horseshoe curve and burned house. Grandfather told me Mr. Edwards blew head off with dynamite. What got people going was in 60's around 65 I think. Two men were moon shining and trying to scare folks away but it backfired on them and caused more people to come down Payne and Edwards Rd. They got caught and went to prison. Mr. T. Speas got out of prison and became an alcoholic went into DT's put shotgun in his mouth and blew brains out. He lived on Payne Rd. All the ghost stories are BS I have ran those roads day and night and nothing has happened. Well there was one time in late Oct 1970 or there about. Was walking up Edwards Rd. the moon was very bright, I was casting a good shadow, wind was blowing. I heard something behind me and looked down at shadow, I saw what looked like hand ready to grab my hair. I ran like hell was after me. When I got home I looked in mirror and saw my hair standing up because of wind, and it looked like fingers, scared of my own shadow.
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Post by michael818 on Feb 15, 2012 19:23:03 GMT -4
THANK you for posting, Peterdragon... FINALLY, someone who grew up on that actual road tells the truth! Yes, I actually found M. Frank Edwards' death certificate.... maybe your post will finally shut up the bullshitters! Thanks again. Also, good to hear exactly where Vernice Alford was killed. We had always thought it was by where the bridge and the giant tree were on Edwards rd. Thx again!
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Post by guest on Feb 23, 2013 14:13:35 GMT -4
A couple of friends and myself went out to the road last night and it was pretty eerie. We parked at the cemetery where the gate closed off off of Edwards road and walked down a muddied road that steadily declined. We noticed the sounds of dogs parking (at least six or seven) in the area off to our right and as we descended farther and the road began to twist the baying noise was now coming from the left. We found a strange mailbox, halfway down the road and it was heavily rusted with a broken off ruler taped to it reading, "4321", inside was a dead hornet's nest. We continued farther down the road to the field and the mist started to get heavier. We could barely see anything through the fog but we began to crest the hill of this field nevertheless. As we crested the hill, the baying of the dogs got louder and instead of six or seven it sounded as if there were at least a dozen or more dogs. I think a kennel or something must be in the area, but I checked google maps this morning and could find no evidence of such a thing. As we crested the hill one of my friends and I noticed a strange white blur that you could not see with your flashlight. When we pointed the flashlight at it, it disappeared. So we moved closer to it, it still disappeared when the flashlight was pointed at it, though we could barely see it through the mist anyway. It seemed to become clearer to me and looked like the figure of a person although opaque. We couldn't tell what it was and by that point we were pretty freaked out by the whole, won't show up under flashlight thing, so we left. All in all, a pretty creepy night though I'm not quite sure if I believe all the stories. I think further investigation is needed.
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Post by johntravis on Jan 15, 2014 3:36:33 GMT -4
Don't know where you got your information, but...no. The Lawson murders occurred in Stokes County off Highway 8...Brook Cove area. The Payne Road house was in Forsyth.
The Payne Road house burned down several years ago...likely vandalism. The Lawson House was torn down and the wood was used to build the covered bridge on the road that leads onto the property.
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Post by johntravis on Jan 15, 2014 4:16:40 GMT -4
Wow. This thread went to hell fast.
I'll relate an experience that I had at the house back in the mid-70s. I'm not given to see ghosts where there aren't any...but this spooked me badly enough that I didn't go back down there until I heard that the house had burned.
Like so many others, I'd heard the stories and went to have a look with a friend of mine who lived in Rural Hall. Stafford Tuttle...now deceased.
When we rounded the curve, there was an older man standing in the road, and two older women dressed in long skirts and sun bonnets working the garden across from the house. We stopped and asked about the stories, and he sniffed and said that none of it was true. The women never looked up and never seemed to even notice us. He also told me about the suicide by dynamite in the barn across the road and to the right of the house.
Then, I noticed that neither the man nor the women were casting shadows. I saw my shadow and Stafford's while we were standing talking to him...but not his. I nudged Stafford and told him that we needed to go...now. He looked puzzled and mouthed "Why?" I pointed to our shadows and then where the old man's should have been. We hustled the hell out of there.
That's my story, and I'll stick to it.
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Post by michael818 on Jan 15, 2014 16:16:51 GMT -4
Hmmm... You might have been told about Milus Frank Edwards' suicide by the man himself... Just know, the Edward Payne story is total fiction... I don't kbnkw why people keep saying the Lawson thing happened at te Edwards house. Fact, history, and records CLEARLY show that happened over off Brook Cove... You are completely right about the location of that. Heck, some idiot wrote a book called THE BEAST OF RICKARDS ROAD AND THGE GHOST OF PAYNE ROAD, That person insists to thyis day that The Lawson Tragedy happened on Payne, despite all documentation proving otherwise...
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Post by michael818 on Jan 25, 2014 21:31:58 GMT -4
You clearly do not know what you are talking about. Edward Payne was my great great uncle. PLEASE. Retreat yourself from this forum and get a factual lead on information before you argue about it. Thank you. I say again, and this ios DOCUMENTED HISTORICAL FACT... Edward Payne did NOT exist, and there was NEVER a man who killed his family on Payne OR Edwards Roads. You have NO standing...
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Post by johntravis on Jan 26, 2014 8:46:25 GMT -4
Hmmm... You might have been told about Milus Frank Edwards' suicide by the man himself. I won't speculate on that, but I remember what he said...verbatim. He pointed to the outbuilding and said: "He went inter that there barn over yonder and blowed his brains out with diney-mite."
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