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Post by Liv on Nov 2, 2007 10:59:34 GMT -4
This is a reply to the previous post about someone not knowing of the Lawson murders. My husband's grandmother remembers Charlie Lawson. She remembered it happening all those years ago...in the Walnut Cove area. According to newspapers, it was the Walnut Cove area. The two young girls were believed to be killed out by a barn, where they say Charlie was hiding. He shot them as they were believed to be on their way to their cousins. His wife was shot and killed on the front porch, as she was getting wood. Two little boys and an infant girl were bludgeoned to death inside the house. The oldest daughter was shot in the home. The bullet went through her body, into a clock on the mantle behind her, stopping the clock at her time of death. Charlie was then believed to walk off into the woods, pace around a tree, and then eventually took his own life. Only one the remained was Arthur. He went into town to buy bullets. This all happened in 1929. Walnut Cove has changed A LOT since then...more than just street names, but it did happen, and around 5,000 people or more attended the funeral. Look it up. It did happen. As for the hauntings, I don't know, but I wouldn't doubt it, considering how all of those people died. Slave shacks? LOL- no, it was in the 1920's...people didn't have slaves, but they farmed back then. It was the only way some people could live! Someone may have mistaken this legend from one about a place in Virginia. This has ALWAYS interested me, so I've done some research, but I've never had anyone brave enough to check it out with me. I just mentioned it one day, and my husband's grandmother told me that she remembered it. It must have made an impact on her for she was only about 5 or 6 years-old. There must be "something" to all of this....
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Post by angel71242 on Nov 2, 2007 12:42:34 GMT -4
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Post by MadHattris on Dec 12, 2007 23:59:20 GMT -4
Hi everyone. I have been living in the Walnut Cove area for about 4 years now. This is the first time I have heard about the Payne Rd stories. My fiance told me about it tonight and me, being me, googled it when we got home from driving down that road. I can honestly say that I did not see anything odd except for fog forming right in front of our car and no where else. I did not really get an strange feeling or anything like the sort but then again it could be because my fiance would not slow the car down so I could look for the bridge he was telling me about. I did see a bridge on Bolejack rd but not on Payne Rd. We did not travel down Edwards because he said he didn't know it that well. We will be going back to Payne Rd later on this week during the day light hours, most likely right after sunrise. If anyone that knows the area and about the stories please contact me at madhattris@lycos.com I am very interested about this story. Oh and someone mentioned in a post in the very beginning about a "witch" living on this road..... I wish to know who that person is talking about. Also I am wanting to meet up with some more people and go to this place after dark to check it out better. Thanks, MH
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Post by chellemo on Dec 13, 2007 9:52:54 GMT -4
My husband knows a lot more about the area and what supposedly happens than I do. He told me about it and we have been out there a couple times. I hear the road used to be a lot scarier before they paved it and the house at the bridge burned down. The times we went I didn't see anything either. But, I know people who say they were followed by another car that disappeared before they got to the end of Payne Rd.
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Post by madhattris on Dec 15, 2007 15:26:58 GMT -4
I just finished talking to my fiance's Granny about all of this.
First, she says that the bridge on Payne Rd it is no longer there. It became to much of a hazard risk that it was torn down and replaced it with the concrete bridge that is there now. Edwards Rd was a part of Payne Rd until it was paved and then it was named Edwards. Bolejack Rd, which is across from Payne Rd, has nothing to do with it because it has always been Bolejack and before it was Bolejack it was a number.
Second. Let me put to rest the connection between Payne Rd and The Lawson Family. The Lawson family murder did NOT happen on Payne Rd. It happened on Brook Cove Rd. I know this for a fact because their house was on Brook Cove Rd and because my Granny's Father was close friend's with Charlie Lawson. Now there is a connection between the family and Payne Rd. The Lawson Family did own a shack on Payne Rd because they farmed over there. The Lawson Family was not killed over there though.
Now from what Granny told me, there has been murders on Payne Rd. She says there has been 5 murders but I can't remember what she said happened exactly.
Please people, put to rest the Lawson Family. It was a sad tragedy but it was a tragedy that did not happen on Payne Rd.
Now there is a story like the Lawson Family murder about Edward Payne which did happen on Payne Rd.
I am still wanting to know more about what happened on Payne Rd for when I visit it, I can feel a darker force there.
Now before you believe me to not be sound, allow me to tell you about myself. I grew up in a Christian household and have been one for most of my life. I say most because when I was younger, I became fascinated in the pagan world but after many years of studying it, I came back to being a Christian. I have always been able to feel past and present emotions and can feel when something dark is around.
I wish to go out there sometime at night with some people that have a fascination like I do. Please contact me at madhattris@lycos.com so we can set it up.
Thanks, MH
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Post by angel71242 on Dec 17, 2007 10:51:34 GMT -4
Why do you think that the Lawson's had a shack and farmed on Payne Road? They had 200 acres on Brook Cove Road - it makes no sense that they would also have property on Payne Road. And you are the only person in history to ever say this. Others get confused and think the Lawson's lived on Payne Road, but I've never heard anyone say the Lawson's lived on Brook Cove and also had property on Payne Road. Just curious where you are getting this info.
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Post by madhattris on Dec 31, 2007 0:11:18 GMT -4
Like I said in the last post. My fiance's Granny, who grew up here, told me and him this. I'm just telling you what she told me.
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Post by hycolakegal on Jan 1, 2008 22:13:47 GMT -4
I don't believe madhattris said that the Lawson's lived on Payne road. And it could be a possibility that they had more land else where. As a matter of fact, my grandparents farmed and raised cattle. They would use land a few miles away to slaughter the cows...I know this sounds awful, thank goodness it isn't a family tradition!! It was just what she was told. Nothing is written in stone where this story is concerned. It is just opinions and observations.
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Post by angel71242 on Jan 2, 2008 14:17:03 GMT -4
luvmydog, I mean hycolakegal...I don't believe that I said that MadHattris said they LIVED on Payne Road. And no nothing is written in stone, but there is common sense and it makes no sense for the Lawsons to have 200 acres on Brookcove Road and then another plot of land 7 miles away that has never been mentioned in any book, newspaper article or any interview with any family members.
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Post by hycolakegal on Jan 2, 2008 20:00:44 GMT -4
Miss Angel....nothing was said to degrade you, I was only stating that everyone has their own opinion. Not sure what you meant by luvmydog. I do love my dog and cat and fish, but it sounds like you are so bitter for some reason?? Anyway, lets try and keep the forum on topic.
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Post by angel71242 on Jan 3, 2008 11:12:06 GMT -4
Miss hycolakegal..don't worry - you could never degrade me! And can you tell me what in my post was not on topic?
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Post by hycolakegal on Jan 3, 2008 21:21:38 GMT -4
Hello? ?? The topic is........Payne road. Not who has common sense and who doesn't, apparently you don't. This message board has nothing to do with the one you brown bag with. I really feel sorry that you have such a low self-confidence that you have to kiss a#% for the high and mighty monarator of that forum. Peace be with you, you really need it!
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Post by angel71242 on Jan 4, 2008 10:49:20 GMT -4
Go spew your venom at someone else dog. I'm done with you.
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Post by michael818 on Jan 6, 2008 9:28:14 GMT -4
Hello, Angel. Just found this forum. I have to say, it IS possible the Lawsons did do some farming over there. My granddad farmed a lot several miles from his farm that his brother leased to him. This was done quite a bit back then, and even to the present day, where my cousin farms two lots that face each other across the Yadkin River, with a 6 mile stretch of road to drive between them. That being said, a mutual friend told me you were under some sort of vicious attack here. I have read this. You and I BOTH know who this person is. She once let it slip to someone we both know that she uses this online name, so there is no question. I suggest we simply ignore her. Whatever barbs she throws, just let it pass. Her opinion of you, or me, or the moderator of any other forum just doesn't count for anything. There are many legends concerning Payne Road. Some will be detailed in my second book next year. Some people do seem to be confused about the family on Payne Road. The tales are associated neither with the Lawsons, nor the "Paynes." Someone once mentioned the "Diary of Edward Payne" somewhere. I can find no documentation to support that he ever existed. Considering that the name of the family that has owned that property on that road is NOT Payne anyway, I find it unlikely, though I will still be looking around. The place is spooky, but not as much as it once was. The house and bridges, after all, are long gone. For anyone interested, I am the author of ROADSIDE REVENANTS AND OTHER NORTH CAROLINA GHOSTS AND LEGENDS, my first book. Book 2 is at the publisher, and Book 3 is in planning. I am also a ghost hunter. I have investigated and researched hundreds of NC legends in the past 15 years. I have been interviewed on national radio, and we were part of a TV special in October, 2007 with TAT-TV, Channel 75 in Winston-Salem at the time. It was a two-hour special in which I took the TAT crew on a tour of haunted sites in Surry and Yadkin Counties, and it ended with an investigation of a house in Mocksville. Anyone interested in taking part in an investigation, let me know. Looks like a cool forum!
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Post by michael818 on Jan 6, 2008 16:20:05 GMT -4
Hello Mad hattris. Good to see you here. Edwards Road is ACTUALLY the road people are talking about when they mention Payne Road's ghost stories. The big house that burned actually stood on it. Both bridges said to be haunted were on Edwards, and both, along with that house, are now gone. The road names were switched or changed in the early 90's, for whatever reason. It has also been paved. Though still dark and spooky, without the house and bridges, a lot of the teeth of the stories have been removed. The two main stories that I can document concern the death of a young woman in 1992, and the suicide of a man who put a stick of dynamite in his mouth! He was the grandfather of a deputy whose family has owned the property for generations. All stories concerning a man who killed his family seem to be a transplanting of the Lawson killings. Similarly, there can be no "Edward Payne's Diary," as there was no Edward Payne, at least not a DOCUMENTED one! If he did exist, I would be more inclined to believe he was the planter who murdered his slaves, or WAS murdered by them. Please know that I cannot be sure this legend of a mad slaveholder is true or not. All I can say is that there is NO documentation.
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