lilghost87
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Post by lilghost87 on Feb 15, 2008 20:56:35 GMT -4
I am still wanting to find more about the place. Everytime I have read an experience they say that it had a very dark and disturbing feeling when they were on the road. I wonder why, if something is so horrible what is causing it? I can say when I was down there I felt very uncomfortable but I can't say that something down there made me feel that way because I already knew the stories of the area. I know when you go to a place to investigate and have heard all kinds of stories the best thing to do is CLEAR YOUR MIND of everything that you have heard about in order to feel what is actually going on. Your mental state at the time can really play with you when you are at a place like that. I think the best thing to do and what I would like to do is take someone down there that has never heard of the story of the road what so ever and see if they feel anything at all.
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michael818
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Post by michael818 on Feb 16, 2008 11:54:50 GMT -4
Well, things have happened, just nothing like what they say, that's documented. Some people claim to have an "Edward Payne's Diary." An impossibility if there WAS NO Edward Payne! My friend David had that experience with the bridge. Practically killed his car. You can read about it in Book 2 later this year. I just haven't found the brutal planter. He may exist and I just haven't looked in the right place. i do know the edwards family has owned the property in question for several generations, and they say he doesn't exist.
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lilghost87
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Post by lilghost87 on Feb 16, 2008 11:59:35 GMT -4
Yea I have heard about the Edward Payne's diary, well just found out about it last night trying to look somethings up on the web.
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Post by michael818 on Feb 16, 2008 16:27:40 GMT -4
Don't buy into that nonsense. It is a complete hoax and a waste of time better spent on legit research. It wasn't the Payne Family, but the Edwards family. The Paynes, if they were out there, lived elsewhere. I think they weren't.
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Post by lilghost87 on Feb 16, 2008 18:12:21 GMT -4
Its unreal to how many stories have been told about that road. I guess just through the years someone was bored sometime and started making stuff up or just misunderstood as to what actually happened down there. And then it just started spreading like wildfire. I just never thought that this road caused alot of interest.
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Post by michael818 on Feb 16, 2008 18:31:55 GMT -4
Amy, my sis, once saw what we call a "Runner" out there. This is an elemental creature that looks for all the world like a deer... until it rises on its hind legs and sprints away like Carl Lewis!!! Don't know what its official name is, but we call it this because, whenever seen, they are usually running away! My feeling is that this might have something to do with all the stupid "Satanic" or occult stuff that people used to go out there and fool around with. They have been seen in other locations in the Piedmont area.
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Post by lilghost87 on Feb 17, 2008 10:09:27 GMT -4
Creepy, that could be a possibility. Like I have said in my other thread about the Griffin graveyard there have been times where my neighbors had to call the police about that stuff. And they live right at the graveyard. They said they used to do it out in the feild behind the graves. Something about animal sacrafices and possibly rape. Kind of scares me to know thats not far from me. I hope they don't do it there anymore I haven't heard or seen such things but I know the occasional teenager goes out there and messes around...probably thinking they are going to see something. lol we have alot of deer around here but haven't seen anything quiet like that.....yet... :/
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Post by michael818 on Feb 17, 2008 14:17:59 GMT -4
Most of the so-called "Satanic" rituals we run across around here are just a bunch of morons or stupid teenagers doing what they THINK is a satanic ritual. When I was at App. State, one of my group and I ran across some Watauga High kids fooling around out on the Parkway. Scared the bejesus outa them too! With all the wailing and moaning we were doing out there in the dark woods around them, I'll bet they NEVER did that again! lol...
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Post by lilghost87 on Feb 17, 2008 15:17:51 GMT -4
HaHa quiet funny. well, I just hope whatever was going on down the road was just a bunch of stupid teenagers, I know from time to time I happen to find some evidence that someone was down there, beer cans and...well..I'll just say "Balloons" But it kind of makes me sick that they are out there in a graveward doing that stuff. Maybe one of the ghosts will come up and get them lol.
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Post by JB WILLARD on Feb 17, 2008 18:38:43 GMT -4
My Friend Pat Boyles Is In The Documentary, " A CHRISTMAS FAMILY TRAGEDY ", I Have The DVD, And Have Read The Book, " WHITE CHRISTMAS BLOODY CHRISTMAS ", And Also, " THE MEANING OF OUR TEARS ", As A Fellow North Carolinan, I Feel For The Late Kids Who Were Brutally Murdered That Cold Dec. Day In 1929...
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Post by michael818 on Feb 18, 2008 17:59:32 GMT -4
Everyone does. But... they were NOT killed on Payne Road, but on the Lawson farm off Brook Cove. It was a senseless tragedy that, according to certain evidence that has come to light, could have been averted if only Charlie Lawson had went with his brother to a doctor one day.
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Post by julia on Feb 20, 2008 17:32:11 GMT -4
I've always figured that one of two things happened...either the Lawson events was absorbed due to geographical proximity (an aerial view will show you that the locations aren't really that far apart as the crow flies, but by road, it's alot longer..); possibly there were tragedies there over the years and the reticence in discussing the Lawson murders by locals pushed the site of the murders to a more accessible location.
My second (very much unproved theory...) there is a possibility that Arthur Lawson lived in the area after the murders. Very little is known about where he lived in the years between the murders and his death. There are a few known locations, but alot of time is unaccounted for. Several of the "old timers" in my area have said that he lived over toward the Rural Hall area, a few have said in the Slate Rd area, which is very very close to Payne Rd. It's also not all that far to Germanton from Payne Rd, so it is conceivable that he rented property somewhere around there. My father swears that my grandfather "hung out" with a Buck Lawson that lived over on Slate Rd. Maybe the same person, maybe not.
Both of these are strictly conjecture on my part, just conclusions drawn from talking to people and hearing stories over the years.
Michael, completely off topic, but I still may be counting on you for pictures!! As soon as I know for sure, you'll be one of the first to know! And thought about you this weekend, had to go to Elkin Saturday and drove up through your neck of the woods.
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Post by angel71242 on Feb 21, 2008 10:07:34 GMT -4
Actually Arthur "Buck" Lawson's locations of all the places he lived after the murders and until his death are well documented in the bodproductions forum. All of the locations were researched and confirmed by several people. And he never lived on Slate Road.
Maybe it is the close proximity that makes people think the Lawson's lived there (Payne Rd and Brookcove Rd are 7 miles apart).
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Post by michael818 on Feb 21, 2008 17:37:01 GMT -4
There are now photos in the gallery of the Lawson Cabin, and of the house on Payne/Edwards Road. The Lawson Cabin, which stood on a long driveway off brook Cove Road, which begins right beside Watts Road, is a smaller two hundred year old, unpainted 1 1/2 story cabin. The house on Payne is a two to 2 1/2 story rambler, painted white. If you look, the houses are COMPLETELY different. This should forever lay to rest the notion that these two different homes were one and the same. This is the Edwards House. This is the Lawson Cabin.
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Post by julia on Feb 21, 2008 23:49:22 GMT -4
Seeing the two of them together really showcases the differences between the two...The Lawson house puts me to mind of a sharecropper type house. Built quickly, but to last, and with as little embellishment as possible. Simply a plain, sturdy, functional house. I believe the house was approximately 100 years old at the time the Lawson's moved in, right? That would have put it about 1830; so it was likely built with materials available on or near the building site.
The Payne house on the other hand, it typical of the mid to late 1800's into the early turn of the century. Much larger, obviously built by people in a better financial situation than the original builders of the Lawson house. While still built to be a functional farm house, it's typical of the era in this area. I grew up in a house almost identical the the Payne house, my father always called the "two up, two down" or "L" houses. There is probably a more correct term, most of the new construction books refer to them simply as "southern style" farmhouses.
There is one thing about the Payne house that struck me when looking at them side by side. The rear portion (if I'm remembering correctly, the kitchen area) looks to be older than the front section. The foundation is different. Possibly the foundation of an earlier building, or the front section was added at a later date. I do know that the stacked stone foundation was used at least until the late 1920's, my own house was built in three different times, the front and center sections have the stone foundation, the rear is cinderblock. The front of this house was built in the 1890's, the center around 1910-1920, the rear in the 1950s....in the crawlspace, it's very easy to see the differences in how the foundation was built during different times.
Angel, I talked with Maria about the possibility of Arthur living over in that area; do you have a listing of where he lived over the years between the murders and his death? I'd love to figure out if it's possibly the same person that they're talking about! I do know that Daddy knew Blaine Nelson, he apparently was a sort of "hanger on" with my g-father's group. Unfortunately, there are enough Lawson's in this area, that confusion of who is which can get really confusing.....there are still Lawson's over on the Slate Rd area, it's entirely possible it was another person...Since Buck died before my father's birth, it's also possible that Daddy's remembering someone who was mentioned, but may have had a similar name, such as Bud, he never knew him, just remembers my grandfather talking about him. (Does this paragraph make sense at all??? Geez, I'm tired!)
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