Post by michael818 on Feb 21, 2011 18:15:42 GMT -4
READ, idiot. I did not say Ms. Edwards LIVES there... I said she OWNS the property, and she does. It was NEVER the PAYNE House, but has ALWAYS been the EDWARDS House. It is where Mr. M.F. Edwards LIVED when he KILLED himself with DYNAMITE back in 1955. THIS IS FACT. NOT fiction like Edwaqrd Payne. Now, ALL of you can go on supporting and telling this story. Why not? it's a good spooky story. BUT IT IS FICTION! Census records, DEED records, and just about every sort of legal document you can think of have been checked, rechecked, and poured over ad nauseum! The fact is, there simply isn't time for there to have been such, with a POSSIBLE window of opportunity being between 1800 and 1825. But there WOULD have been a record of some sort. Edward Payne is legend... M. F. Edwards is DOCUMENTED fact. FACTS are what any serious researcher deals in, not word of mouth or legend.
Now, I suspect that several of these posts are from one person, despite the different names, or people working together. Either way, doesn't matter.
I really don't care if you live there or not. Do you know how many people who live around there still don't understand that Charlie Lawson's Farm was off Brook Cove (That confusion is probably caused by the road being known by a different name back in the day)? You can argue against historically documented fact all you want. FACT is FACT, and the fact is no one has EVER shown real evidence of the supposed Payne Family massacre. You show me proof, and I'll say I was wrong. So, show me the proof.
And I don't want to hear about any "Edward Payne's Diary" either! I have already talked to someone FROM THAT AREA who confessed to finding an old empty diary from the early 20th century that was blank. He and friends filled it with dark ramblings, alleged occult symbols, and the "story" of the Payne killings... They created this fake in or around 1971, and placed it in the EDWARDS House as a joke! Thought it would spook people fooling around out there. Only someone TOOK the D$$$ thing a few years later. They replaced it with a newer one, but that too was stolen from the house before it burned. As for anyone who claims to have that book, bring it forward, and allow it to be tested. Science can not only tell us how old the paper is, but the age of the INK used.
GIVE IT A REST. IF I find Edward Payne, I will be the FIRST to say so, and say that we were ALL wrong. I do not anticipate having to do that, but if I find something, I will.
FOR THE RECORD... AGAIN, I DID NOT SAY MS. EDWARDS LIVES THERE. I SAID SHE OWNS IT, AND SHE DOES. SHE WAS ONCE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND SHE HAS TOLD PEOPLE REPEATEDLY THAT THE PAYNE STORY IS BUNK!
SECOND: i HAVE NEVER SAID THAT CHARLIE LAWSON LIVED THERE, AND NEVER SAID HE KILLED HIS FAMILY THERE. I HAVE NEVER SAID HE LIVED ON PAYNE ROAD AT ALL. THAT IS SOMETHING I HAVE DONE MY VERY BEST TO DISPELL.
As for you, Robert, I don't give a HANG if you are angry. Doesn't change the FACTS. There are NO BRIDGES left on EDWARDS Road, and this is the very first i ever heard of Payne hanging himself from a bridge. However, i do have a question. Deeds and documentation clearly show that the house that burned in 1992, which was in that last big curve near the creek on Edwards Rd. belonged to the Edwards Family. Are you referring to another house on the actual Payne Rd., and not on Edwards? I've seen that bridges still exist on that road, not far from the Edwards property. One thing that people have not done is look at records of deeds and stuff on the actual Payne rd., which runs from 66 to its intersection with friendship, where it becomes Bole Jack. Since edwards does run into that Payne Rd., and people so often call Edwards Rd. Payne Rd., I have sometimes wondered if something got mixed in with the suicide of Mr. ewdwards in 1955. What year is the Payne killing supposed to have occurred? I still don't buy it, mind you, BUT, if there are two different places being talked about, I CAN see how stories got mixed up. After all, several people have misplaced the Lawson tragedy onto those roads in the past, so why not other incidents? Todd, aka Faithful Jinx, showed the truth of all this in the Lawson documentary. If it is another hopuse, let everyone know.
Now, I suspect that several of these posts are from one person, despite the different names, or people working together. Either way, doesn't matter.
I really don't care if you live there or not. Do you know how many people who live around there still don't understand that Charlie Lawson's Farm was off Brook Cove (That confusion is probably caused by the road being known by a different name back in the day)? You can argue against historically documented fact all you want. FACT is FACT, and the fact is no one has EVER shown real evidence of the supposed Payne Family massacre. You show me proof, and I'll say I was wrong. So, show me the proof.
And I don't want to hear about any "Edward Payne's Diary" either! I have already talked to someone FROM THAT AREA who confessed to finding an old empty diary from the early 20th century that was blank. He and friends filled it with dark ramblings, alleged occult symbols, and the "story" of the Payne killings... They created this fake in or around 1971, and placed it in the EDWARDS House as a joke! Thought it would spook people fooling around out there. Only someone TOOK the D$$$ thing a few years later. They replaced it with a newer one, but that too was stolen from the house before it burned. As for anyone who claims to have that book, bring it forward, and allow it to be tested. Science can not only tell us how old the paper is, but the age of the INK used.
GIVE IT A REST. IF I find Edward Payne, I will be the FIRST to say so, and say that we were ALL wrong. I do not anticipate having to do that, but if I find something, I will.
FOR THE RECORD... AGAIN, I DID NOT SAY MS. EDWARDS LIVES THERE. I SAID SHE OWNS IT, AND SHE DOES. SHE WAS ONCE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND SHE HAS TOLD PEOPLE REPEATEDLY THAT THE PAYNE STORY IS BUNK!
SECOND: i HAVE NEVER SAID THAT CHARLIE LAWSON LIVED THERE, AND NEVER SAID HE KILLED HIS FAMILY THERE. I HAVE NEVER SAID HE LIVED ON PAYNE ROAD AT ALL. THAT IS SOMETHING I HAVE DONE MY VERY BEST TO DISPELL.
As for you, Robert, I don't give a HANG if you are angry. Doesn't change the FACTS. There are NO BRIDGES left on EDWARDS Road, and this is the very first i ever heard of Payne hanging himself from a bridge. However, i do have a question. Deeds and documentation clearly show that the house that burned in 1992, which was in that last big curve near the creek on Edwards Rd. belonged to the Edwards Family. Are you referring to another house on the actual Payne Rd., and not on Edwards? I've seen that bridges still exist on that road, not far from the Edwards property. One thing that people have not done is look at records of deeds and stuff on the actual Payne rd., which runs from 66 to its intersection with friendship, where it becomes Bole Jack. Since edwards does run into that Payne Rd., and people so often call Edwards Rd. Payne Rd., I have sometimes wondered if something got mixed in with the suicide of Mr. ewdwards in 1955. What year is the Payne killing supposed to have occurred? I still don't buy it, mind you, BUT, if there are two different places being talked about, I CAN see how stories got mixed up. After all, several people have misplaced the Lawson tragedy onto those roads in the past, so why not other incidents? Todd, aka Faithful Jinx, showed the truth of all this in the Lawson documentary. If it is another hopuse, let everyone know.